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Subject: My Trip to Bangkok and Pattaya

This is a brief description of my trip to Thailand (December1996). First
of all I should point out that my favourite type of woman has green eyes
and is not shy when it comes to sex. Thus from what I had read I knew it
would be difficult for me to find the women of my dreams in Thailand. I
have to add that I respect prostitution as a profession.

1st Day

I arrived on Friday (1am) at Bangkok International Airport. At around
2am was through immigration and negotiated a Taxi at the Airport for 250
Baht  to a hotel on Sukhumvit Road.  Traffic was ok due to a new express
way to Sukhumvit Road. After checking in at the hotel I decided to
immediately go to Nana Plaza since I heard it would be open to 4am. When
I arrived at Nana Plaza (Sukhumvit Soi 4) at 2.50 am it was pretty
empty. Only a few places were open and at 3 am every place closed. I
thought this was my chance since girls were leaving the bars and I could
negotiate with them without paying a bar-fine. Just when I was looking
for an attractive girl coming out from the bars 2 Farangs started a big
fight. All girls came to watch them fighting, apparently for a girl but
IMHO it was too much alcohol. Anyway this gave me good chance to have a
glance at the girls while they were watching the fight. After a few
minutes I made my move and sort of tried to take care of two girls which
were to close to the fight.  I asked there names and then asked the girl
I fencied if she would like to spend the night with me (yes that was my
second question!). She said let's go out of Nana Plaza and talk outside.
I agreed and she wanted 1000Baht for the night. She had a wonderful body
and you could see her tummy from the dress she was wearing. Considering
that it was late I offered her 750 Baht and she agreed  (I'm not a cheap
bastard to offer her 500 Baht which she might have accepted as well).

Back at the hotel the guy at the reception was smiling at me with a sort
of admiration. Back in my room she had a long shower (on her own since
she seemed to be very shy and I was to tired to insist on this). Anyway
after that she didn't want to give me oral sex. As I don't like
insisting I kissed her whole body first and then we had sex for about 20
minutes in various positions. I must say she was not very enthusiastic.
Since I did not spend the whole night with a girl for a long time I
could not sleep very well (I also did not thrust her very much). The
next morning I was ready for a second session of pleasure. This time it
took me only 5 minutes to come. I told her it was my first time in
Bangkok, but she did not seem to believe me when I told her I arrived
that night at 1am. Of course there was no point in telling her about the
Internet etc. While she was leaving she asked for the money and I gave
her 800 Baht. She looked at the money and asked me if we didn't agree on
1000Baht. Obviously she was to drunk to remember what we have talked
about the night before. Discussing money at the end of a nice time was a
complete turn off for me so I gave her 100 Baht more and she left (I
actually left her on the main street with a tuk tuk).

After breakfast the rest of the day was sightseeing (mostly temples).
This night I spend the night alone to relax for the next day.

2nd Day

I spend the morning again around the Grand Palace taking a boat trip
like recommended in the guide book. This night I walked along Sukhumvit
Road to check out some massage parlours. Not many who officially to a
body massage, so I opted for the most expensive one on the street with
the best girls. It was 2500 Baht everything included (wash, fuck and
suck as the guy told us). Very expensive but I had to check it out. The
place was called Turkish Bath and Massage but I really wanted a body
massage. The guy inside assured me I would get what I asked for so I
picked a gorgeous looking Thai beauty.

First she gave me a massage with her hands while the Jacuzzi was filling
with hot water. the room was huge and nice decorated. I also ordered her
a soda and myself a beer during the massage. Then she invited me into
the jacuzi where she washed my whole body. Then the washing continued
with her tits. She rubbed herself on my chest and continued polishing me
with her ass. Not bad but I could not get enough of it and at the end
the body to body massage bit lasted only 5 minutes. The she rinsed me
and herself and we moved to the bed. This time there was no problem with
oral sex but it was with condom. Now there was a surprise for me:After
the blow job she put on a second condom for safety! Sex with two
condoms, that was a completely new experience although I must say I was
not very happy about this. Anyway due to the  feeling decrease factor of
two! condoms, I had her in different position for about 20 minutes and
she got really tired from what I could see. As it was 11 pm when we
finished I asked her what time she starts work. She said 12 in the
afternoon and I was her last customer (she did not say customer of
course). I tipped her 200 Baht because she made me a lot of compliments
about my style of fucking her. She said she enjoyed it etc (a lot of
lies but who cares). She was so happy about the tip she sat on my lap
and started kissing me. We had a short chat afterwards and I found out
she is from Chang Mai.

Ok now it's some time to give more information about the Sukhumvit Road
scene. First of all because Thelmae is close we could not find the new
place. Tuk Tuk's who said they would bring us to Thelmae brought us to
some massage parlours and places where you could have girls for 1000
Baht for 2 hours.
I have to describe you the places to give you an idea about what this
place is like.

First of all Nana Plaza was nothing like I expected. A lot of middle
aged man watching girls on stage in the go-go bars. If you call this
dancing what these girls are doing than you have seen nothing  yet. They
are just moving one leg to the front and then to the back. I thought I
would be watching a horse or so when seeing them on stage with their
numbers. It was so degrading for woman. I like to be with woman I can
respect. You may be surprised but I can respect prostitutes but not if
they just display themselves like meat. A lot of girls on display for 10
minutes than they change and so and so. A lot of drunk farangs which
give them presents kiss them etc. Of course some girls approached me as
well telling me how handsome and young I was (yep I'm only 25). I left
these places and decided to have a drink outside instead where the girls
did not have to display themselves on stage. If you see girls like meat
and just want to satisfy your sexual desires then don't look any further
than Bangkok. Other places like the take a girl for 2 hours were
similar. Girls standing on a stage to display their body. You chose one
go upstairs shag her and that's it. You can also take her to your hotel
for two hours whispers the guy in my ear.
You may say what do you expect, but I expected more from Thailand. A
girlfriend type relation which I was not able to find so far. The
choosing of a girl in the massage parlour was similar 30 girls sitting
behind a glass and watching TV.

3rd Day

Not happy about Nana Plaza I decided to check out Patpong which I
thought must be even worse considering that most tourists were going
there.
Patpong was very lively compared to Nana Plaza. Alot of tourists also
females because there was a big street market in the middle of the road.
On the left and right people are trying to get you into their go-go
bars. I checked out one of the King's group. Not much different from
Nana Plaza. Girls were not very beautiful. The nice once go very early
for short time because there was constantly a traffic of girls coming
back. I decided to leave and check out some more places. On the way I
decided to watch a pussy show but wanted to avoid one of the known
ripp-offs. On the way one guy told me that drinks would be 65 Baht and
no cover charge for the show. I laughed at him and told him I would know
the story. He became serious and said he is not making a joke and said
to me I giving you my Thai promise only 65 Baht. So we went upstairs and
I asked again before ordering the beer. He confirmed 65 Baht. After a
few minutes two girls appeared which sat left and right of me trying to
talk to me but there were unbelievably ugly. I couldn't shag them if
they would pay me. I got rid of them since they wanted to grab my beer.
The show started and after two minutes one of the girls throw herself on
my knees begging for 20 Baht (1 dollar). This was disgusting so I
decided to leave. When I wanted to pay the bill was suddenly 1000Baht. I
became slightly angry realizing that nearly everybody so far had lied to
me since I was in Thailand. Lying to me while looking me in the eyes was
the thing which annoyed me most so I refused to pay the bill. After some
arguments they decided to let me go for paying just 100Baht in addition
to the bill. I agreed to be able to leave this place. Then outside I saw
the guy who gave me his Thai promise while he was trying to get some
tourists in. I told him what happened and I asked him to bring me my 100
baht back. I was not frightened of him because there were so many
tourists around me he could not beat me up. He went up but did not come
down. At the end one of his friends gave me the 100Baht when they
realized I would not go away. Very bad experience and I was very annoyed
from people lying to me. This was not the first time. On the way to the
Grand Palace the same day a tuk tuk told me the Palace would be closed
till 2pm. He wanted to drive me around for 2 hours for 50 Baht. Sounded
good but I could see people going inside from a distance. So I asked him
are you sure because I can see people going in. He insisted they would
be waiting inside. I decided to check it out and of course the Palace
was open. In short some people in this country (I don't know how many)
are so desperate for money that lying while looking in your eyes is very
normal for them. Especially if you are a farang.

 I spend the night alone in the hotel deciding to travel to Pattaya the
next day because Bangkok was really a big disappointment for me. Not
much worth seeing and the way to pick girls like picking a car was not
that attractive to me. I haven't been to the Netherlands but I would
also not sleep with a woman which displays herself on the window. I
expect more.....

4th Day-Pattaya

I arrived in the afternoon and everything looked very quite in this city
with having the reputation for 'the highest number of prostitutes per
square meter in the world'. I walked along the beach and from what I
could see this city was much more relaxing than Bangkok. At night the
city became full of life. This was a city you could not imagine in your
dreams. You could perhaps not even see it in films. Most people did not
know that such a place exists. It was different, it was weird.

When I left the hotel at 8 pm and started walking on the beach this time
the bars were full of girls. I decided to walk next to the bars to have
a glance at the girls. Some of them were so beautiful I can't words to
describe but I did not have dinner and did not feel like starting a
conversation already. This was a place I liked. girls waiting in a bar
(open air). Some of them were also outside the bar and welcoming
customers. One of the girls, a stunner I looked at very carefully and
she came out of the bar following me telling me that she fell in love
with me. It was so difficult for me to continue walking to have my
dinner first, leaving this beauty behind me but I had seen nothing yet.

This place was full of contrasts. Transexuals waiting at some bars. Old
men walking across the street holding 20 year old Thai boys in their
hands. Then there were even some farang women who had toy-boys. Thus you
had all kind of sexual preference at one place. All of it was available
freely. This might be the ultimate freedom for some people for the other
it was the ultimate immorality and perversion.  I enjoyed it since
everything could have what they wanted without interfering with others.
Also everything was much more civilized here than in Bangkok. The
Germans chose this city as main destination for sex tourism and now I
know why. After dinner I decided to have a proper body massage, not a
short one in the Jacuzzi but real body to body pussy massage. Thus I
went to a big place which had big BODY MASSAGE written at the entrance.
Again it was the best place in town prices were 500Baht for the massage
and you could negotiate the price with the girl for full service. You
could call any girl and have a drink with her first which I enjoyed very
much but the pick was again between 30-40 girls behind a glass watching
TV. The girl I called was very nice and we first chatted about name,
place I came from and how long I would stay (this is standart
conversation). Then we came to business and she asked for 1000Baht for
full service. I was generous and did not bargain.

We took a bath together and then I got a proper body to body  massage on
a sea bed. She put lot of foam on me and started sliding up and down on
me with her pussy. Wooow that was real talent. I was impressed. She was
really good and polishing was with her ass. It took 10 minutes but was
great. Then we went back in the bath and we rinsed each other. Oral and
sex was with condom and not bad. I came while she was on top. I forgot
to mention that all Thai girls have very tight pussies thus handle with
care. This was a good start in Pattaya. I also had a drink with her
afterwards chatting about this and that. She kissed me a few times
before preparingt o go back on display again.

The rest of the night I checked out several bars had some nice
conversations and finally decided on one girl which asked for only 500
Baht short time. I said I would prefer long time and she said since this
is your first night I will stay. However on the way to the hotel I
changed my mind since I wanted some sleep. I did not continue to insist
on long time. In my room the girl started to tell me that her mother
would leave the next day and that she had to see her tonight. I hated
people lying to me but she did it again. I'm sure if I followed her she
would be waiting for the next customer. Anyway she gave a terrific
performance. The best in Thailand so far since she wanted to meet me the
next morning. I was convinced she really gave her best. We agreed to
meet the next day at 11am at the hotel entrance.

5th Day-Pattaya

After breakfast at 10.30 I could see her waiting at the lobby of the
hotel. We went to my room and I offered her 1000Baht for the whole day .
I heard cheaper rates are possible but this was the minimum I could
offer to a girl for a whole day. She agreed immediately. We went around
and she was my guide around. We were holding hands most of the time and
went to some shows etc. till the evening. When we arrived at home for
some rest she asked me if I wanted to make love to her. I said ok and
this was definitely the sex I was looking for. She (Naan) moving on top
of me and smiling. Sometimes she was stopping and I continued. Then I
took her from the back and she was really enjoying it (or acting very
very good which might be the case). After some 20 minutes of pleasure I
came inside her (of course with condom). That was really exhausting and
we both  slept till 8pm with her head on my chest (not bad these girls).

Then we went for dinner at a place her friend worked. After we ordered a
young uy appeared who was very angry. He started accusing Naan of
running away after agreeing for two days with him. The girl Naan
disappeared very embarrassed. I was very cool and asked the guy with a
strong German accent about the story. He told me that he agreed on
1000Baht for two days and that she disappeared after the first day with
the money. Thus I met the guy who fucked her two days ago. An
interesting feeling but at least he was handsome and I actually felt
sorry for him. Thus I followed him to talk with Naan. Apparently it
turned out that he wanted to take her back to Germany and got her a
passport etc. You might ask how this is possible in such a short time.
Well let me tell you that some clever Germans have opened a consultancy
which does all the paperwork for you so you can take the girl back home.
That's what I call open-ended sex tourism. The girl told me she changed
her mind and run away because he was forcing her to come with him. Very
interesting and she told me later she was afraid he could sell her in
Germany because she spoke no German. I think it was the girls fault. I'm
sure she first gave him some hope and then after getting the money she
ran away. They all should get awards for their talent in lying to people
and for their performance to make people believe they love you. It's all
acting there is no real love in return for money. If you believe in it
you are a fool. All they think of is money. It's actually true that they
love you from their point of view. As long as you give them money they
will be with you and make you believe you are the only one in their
life. However stop giving money and you will realize the truth. Real
love and friendship can only be understood if you have no money. It has
nothing to do with this topic but  I ended a 3 year relationship with a
girl which insisted on getting married, which I loved like crazy.
However the price she wanted to pay me was more than money for me (my
independence), thus sometimes paying for love and sex can be justified.

The same night Naan wanted to stay at the hotel. So I left her in my
room (all my valuables locked) and left to check out a disco in Pattaya.
I had some great time in the Palladium and decided not to make any move
towards girls since I had one in my bed.  When I came back at 2 am Naan
was sleeping and I went sleeping as well. The next morning I woke up
when Naan was telling me that she had to go and give the 1000Baht to a
friend and that she would be coming back to tell me goodbye. I knew once
she got the money she would not be coming back and thus told her so. She
insisted, she would be coming back to say goodbye. I said don't lie to
me I will give you the money just say bye and leave. But no, she got
angry and said she would come back. I gave her the money and while she
was closing the door saying I will come back I knew this would be the
last time I saw her.

This was my last day in Pattaya and I returned to Bangkok for my flight
back. I will never understand why she was lying till the last minute
while it was not even necessary.


To sum it up all four girls I had in Thailand were shy and only one was
very enthusiastic during sex. I think if you want to have a good time go
to Pattaya and tell the girls you will be there for some time. Then they
really try to please you so you they can be with you the next day.
Bangkok is polluted, overpriced and most places like Patpong are
controlled by the Mafia. Girls can't work on their own whereas in
Pattaya girls even work on the beach. There may be exceptions in Bangkok
but I described the general scene. As they say you may love or hate
Pattaya. I can only say I loved it.


Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:59:45 -0500 The Thai Airways International flight to Bangkok was only 50 minutes and I arrived at 5:45pm. After passing through immigration and customs, I immediately call Supranee, the girl I was last with in Bangkok and with whom I had exchanged several letters since my last visit. She's home and we agree to meet at my regular hotel, the Sukhumvit Crown on Soi 8. I take the 70 baht airport bus into town and along the way have thoughts of great anticipation of seeing Supranee again. After checking in, I wait for her in the hotel lobby. Her older sister, who speaks better English, arrives first and we talk a little while, she telling me how excited Supranee is to see me. When Supranee finally arrives she greets me with a big hug and sniffs my face, a Thai expression of great affection. The three of us go up to my room and talk a little, after which Supranee's sister wants to leave so we can be by ourselves. She leaves with us her Thai-English dictionary, though, which comes in very handy in later conversations. Wondering how to spend our reunitement together, by force of habit I return to my normal Bangkok routine, and we hit Nana Plaza to check out the go-go bars. The place has changed further since my last visit, this time with the open space of the plaza courtyard nearly gone and taken up with beer bars and night vendors making it somewhat difficult to find the go-go bars themselves. We only hit a couple, I find them too crowded, and with the girls on stage in bikinis, rather than nude, not worth sustained attention. Our next stop is Patpong, and after a couple of preliminary stops, settle into the upstairs Lipstick bar for a few descent pussy shows. We finally head back and have a light meal at Foodland before returning to my hotel. I soon have Supranee undressed but it requires some effort, for she is extremely shy. I have her that night and the next morning, the two of us bathing together in the interval. I note this as the first time in Southeast Asia that I've had sex without paying for it. The next day we go to the Ambassador Hotel for a buffet lunch and then set out getting her photographed for a visa application and have a Thai friend help us with the forms. She wants to do my laundry, so we make a trip back to her apartment so she can get her stuff and then while she's washing it in the bathtub, I phone my friend Paul who's been in Bangkok the last month and we make plans to get together at Thermae later that evening. Supranee and I make another trip out looking for a music CD I wanted and then eat at a 24 hour Thai restaurant across from my hotel. When I see Paul at Thermae, I bring Supranee along and spend much of my time just sitting there with her, looking around at all the inviting Thai girls who are suddenly unavailable to me. Supranee and I go back to my room together and just lie there on the bed. She had sensed my interest at Thermae and tells me I can go back there and get a girl for the night, that she will have "no problem" with this. I naively and wishfully take her at her word and excitely hurry back, feeling like a bird let out of its cage. I buy a cola at around 2:30am and start to seriously prowl the now very crowded Thermae. After hitting on a few girls (and a couple hitting on me), I settle on a sweet faced older one of 30 who seems to be very jai dee (good hearted). A little sweet talk later and I have her agreeing to a 500 baht all night, and along the way back to the hotel I tell her that Supranee will also be there. She's very uncomfortable with this, seeing only serious problems to follow. When we get back, Supranee is very mai pen rai (it doesn't matter, no problem) to the girl, and after a little while of convincing, get her to go for it. The two of us shower with Supranee sleeping on the edge of the bed. I have the Thermae girl only once that night and around 4am try to get a little sleep. Supranee gets up an hour later to use the bathroom, and the other girl asks me to see if she's alright. Supranee is and we all get back in bed again. The girl still senses there's a problem and so dresses and leaves at 6am. She turns out to be very right, and I soon get into a long discussion with Supranee about what I just did and how I really feel about her, and my intentions. Supranee is in tears and if nothing else I learn not to place too much, if any, credence in her declarations of "no problem." With a great deal of effort we manage to make up and get a few hours of sleep into the afternoon, me having her twice during that time. More trips are made to her apartment so she can check on stuff, make phone calls, and change her clothes. She also complains about the roughness of my face, so I have her shave it. She puts on a porno video of some intense girl-girl action and I take this as my cue to remove her pants and eat her pussy intensely. I also use it as a good excuse to get her to shave her pussy which she finally does after a few protests of her shyness. She also washes her hair and wants to go to the next door barbershop to have it blow dryed. We dress and go over there, and I decide to also go for a trim and shampoo. The whole thing comes to only 130 baht. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ We go back to my hotel and try to pick a nice restaurant to eat at but end up just going to Foodland again. Afterwards, I buy a disposable camera and take a few pictures of Supranee to remember her by until I see her again. I then write in my diary some, we make love again and around midnight as we're lying naked in bed, her sister shows up and I'm having to clarify my intentions again. We finally get some sleep and I have her once more in the morning, enjoying the taste of her shaved pussy. We talk some more, make a trip to exchange some more traveler's cheques for baht, check out of the hotel, and have lunch, with one of the waitresses taking a picture of us together. Supranee takes a taxi with me to Morchit (Northern) bus station and sees me off as I get on the next 115 baht aircon bus for Khorat. [Khorat] The traffic is fairly light and the ride from Bangkok is only about three hours. After I get off, on the advice of a helpful fellow rider, I take another 3 baht bus to the Siri Hotel where their somewhat shabby aircon rooms (no refrigerator or TV) run 250 baht/night, each night paid in advance. After check in, I have a steak dinner at the next door VFW cafe and then wander the neighborhood for available night action. Very close to my hotel on Jant Road off of Suranaree Road, I find a rather pathetic go-go bar with a very small stage in the front and most of the girls wearing one piece bathing suits with panty hose. None of the girls speak any English but I'm able to gather that 1000 baht will get you one for the night. I pass and walk across the street to a brothel under a large red and white coca-cola sign in Thai. The place is set up like a massage parlor with the girls sitting on steps behind glass watching TV with tables arranged before them where you can sit and have a beer while making your selection. The cost is 500 baht short time and I'm the only non Thai customer there. I choose one and we head to an upstairs room and have a fairly basic screw and shower. I then go back down and sit a while considering whether to have another girl before heading out. After some more walking, I make it over to Yotha Road, also off of Suranaree, to a massage parlor with many lights lit out front. The setup for choosing a girl is the same with the exception that they're sitting in sections marked by large colored signs advertising the price for each quality. I choose an 1100 baht one and we go upstairs for a 2 hour bath, massage and fuck. The bath is great, the massage fairly minimal, after which she spreads her legs wide and motions me to eat her pussy. I oblige, bringing her to an orgasm before screwing her to another. She then bathes thoroughly, wraps herself in a towel, and falls asleep in front of the TV, not allowing me to touch her again. I reply by refusing to let her have a cigarette, hang around a while longer, and then dress and leave to see if I can scope out any free lance girls. More walking follows and I'm unable to find any, but I do run across a number of karaoke and hostess bars though I never find out the terms. Down an alley way, around the corner from the massage parlor I went to, I do find another brothel, this one set up more like a bar with short time running 600 baht and all night 1500, though you ought to be able to get this lower. I pass, and after thoroughly losing myself in late night downtown Khorat, try to find my way back to my hotel. I don't opt for the various tuk tuks offering lifts, not having any small baht bills left on me, but do take up the offer of a Thai man in a pickup truck. I immediately recognise he's gay and is looking for some action from me, of which I make clear my lack of interest. He does drop me off at my hotel and I thank him and go off to bed alone. The next morning I have a pancake breakfast at the next door VFW cafe and hang around to talk to the retired American military expats who gather there each morning. I don't learn much as they all seem to be in their fifties or sixties and settled in with their Thai wives and families. I check out the city some more in the daylight to see if it's worth another day's stay, and when I return to my hotel, one of the maids offers me a girl to have in my room for 300 baht short time. I accept and a little while later am presented with a fair skinned Chiang Rai girl of 19 whom when I get her undressed back in my room find out she's managed to pluck out all her pubic hair. I reward her dedication by eating her to orgasm and we have a nice screw afterwards, she then taking an interest in my Thailand LP guide, flipping through all the colored plates. I stroll out again only to return to be offered another girl, this one a brown skinned Isan girl from Khon Kaen. She's 30 and has had a kid but is still a pretty descent screw, though not as fastidious as the last one about bathing afterwards. She also asks for her money in advance which I refuse even after she calls up the hotel desk clerk. It all remains fairly good natured, though. Around 5pm I head out again, walking a few blocks up Suranaree Road to Klang Plaza I, a large square in the middle of an intersection with grass, a few trees, and some benches. I sit down to read a travel book and after a while am approached by a street girl high from sniffing a glue compound out of a plastic bag. We bullshit back and forth some before she gets down to wanting me to screw her. After buying a 5 baht one liter bottle of water for her and her friends, we agree on a 100 baht short time at my hotel and I take a tuk tuk with her back to it. Another quick screw later (I don't bother doing more than unzipping my fly for her, though she's completely naked) she takes off and I relax a while, dozing off and catching up in my diary. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ I walk around late night Khorat a bit, get some chicken off a street vendor, and then have a beer at the go-go bar before retiring for the night. The next morning I check out and take a tuk tuk to the bus station to catch the next bus for Nong Khai. [Nong Khai] It's a rather tiring 5 hour ride with stops along the way at Khon Kaen and Udon Thani. When we get to Nong Khai, I take a tuk tuk into town to the 450 baht/night Pongvichit Hotel two blocks from the Mekong River ferry crossing with Laos. After check in, I spend the rest of the evening wandering through town scoping out the available action. After dinner at an outdoor restaurant, I go for a traditionaI massage hoping it will lead to more, but though I choose a pretty young girl for my masseuse, end up merely helping to continue the tradition. I come across many hostess/karaoke bars but nothing with more direct offerings. A guy leaning against a motorcyle offers me the girl sitting across in a cafe for a 500 baht short time, and a masseuse outside a traditional Thai massage parlor makes a non traditional offer of 2000 baht all night, both of which I decline. I expect (and have heard) there's a brothel scene in Nong Khai, but given the lack of farang influence Khorat has had, it seems to be fairly hidden. Had I bothered to make more serious queries of the tuk tuk drivers, I'm sure I would have turned up more, but I decide I've had enough. The next morning I check out and take the one hour bus ride back to Udon Thani. [Udon Thani] Udon Thani is a medium sized Thai city, flat and not all that different in appearance to Khorat. Its first large spurt of growth came during the Vietnam War, during which a B-52 base was set up outside of town. Nowadays it serves as the transmitter location for Voice of America, the high towers of which with their blicking warning lights, visible throughout the city. It also has a few high rise hotels, and I choose the convention center Udorn Hotel in the center of town. For 750 baht a night, I have my first big time hotel experience (with a huge counter like front desk, uniformed bell hops, dull elevators, etc.) since Hong Kong. I eat lunch at a small Thai place and walk around some, exchanging a traveler's cheque, getting some bottled water, and purchasing both a Bangkok Post and Nation newspaper to read in my room. In the evening I go to the church like massage parlor (a flight of stone steps leads to the huge polished wooden front doors) next door and for 1000 baht have one of the most passionate screws I've had in Southeast Asia. I pick #47, a pretty smiling girl named Oc whom one of the staff assures me is very jai dee (good hearted). We go to one of the rooms downstairs and instead of the usual insisting on following the set bath, massage, love making routine, we are quickly in each other's arms after undressing. Though she looks about 25 or younger, I find out she's 35 and has never had a kid. She has a very cute body of about 5'1" or so with small, firm breasts and smooth brown skin. She's very into deep french kissing and I go down on her pussy with the same passion. We then screw and remain embraced and kissing until orgasm. I then enjoy a thorough and complete bath from her in the large double width tub, followed by another session on the bed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Afterwards, I go to the hostess bar/night club across the street, and quickly after sitting, am joined by two of the hostesses in their little business suits. Their presence requires the purchase of two 50 baht lady drinks which I go for. Their company is enjoyable and they peal in hysterical laughter when I demonstrate what my interest is by tongueing the forearm elbow crease of one of the girls. We're later joined by another girl whose overtures towards me are even more direct. She's interested in a 300 baht short time, but it has to be after work hours, which is not on my schedule. Outside I'm soon made another offer by a samlor (foot pedaled taxi) driver to take me to some "ladies." I go for it and after a few side streets and back allies, end up at a small house where I'm offered a choice of 6 girls in their late teens or early twenties for a 500 baht short time. I choose a teenaged one and from there am shuttled to a small hotel to pay another 150 baht for a short time room. It's a bit of a shift going to a girl half the age or so of the one I just had, and her lack of experience and shyness is commensurate. Still, there's a sweetness to her relative innocence. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ We have a basic screw, after which a waiting motorbike takes her back to her brothel and my samlor picks me up to continue cruising. We turn a corner and get on Adulayadet Road, and near Soi 2 I'm brought to another karaoke bar/brothel. I decline the offers made having become tired with the late hour and instead choose to head back to my hotel to call it a night while making a note of the neighborhood for the next night. I sleep in some the next day, have the hotel do my laundry and head over to the Bangkok Bank (the only nearby bank with an exchange window open after 3:30pm) to exchange some TCs. At around 6:30pm I go for another massage at the next door place. Oc, the girl I had last time, hasn't arrived and instead I'm offered another jai dee type of 22. This one is absolutely ravishingly beautiful. I wish I'd had my camera with me just to get a picture of her sweet, soft, smooth face. She has a lovely smile and could easily be on the cover of any Thai fashion magazine. We have a very nice time together. We kiss, I eat her, she sucks me, and we screw in multiple positions (including doggy fashion, which she likes). She just doesn't quite have the passion or soul that attracted me to Oc, though, and I don't find the satisfaction of the experience sufficient to want to try her again (particularly with about 30 other girls to choose from). I go for a walk afterwards, and by shear wandering manage to eventually make my way over to Adulayadet Road where I have a beer at one place before going to the bar I was offered a girl at the night before. As soon as I enter the door, a laughing tiny girl of about 4'10" attacks me, jumping into my lap. I agree to a short time with her for 300 baht and a motorbike takes us down an alleyway to a collection of shacks. She undresses and I hold her perfect palm sized breasts in my hands. We then have a quick screw, typical of the kind you get with these short time arrangements. Then we go back to her karaoke bar where I spend the rest of the evening with her on my lap, she periodically bursting out in laughter at the various happenings around us. When the place closes, a samlor takes me back to my hotel and though tired and a little drunk, I impulsively decide to go for another massage. This time Oc is available and in addition to having her bathe me, I also have her wash my hair while I doze off briefly. Feeling a second wind after that, I'm up for another session with her and we have as satisfying a time together as the last. It's now about 12:30am, the parlor has closed, and I invite Oc back to my hotel to spend my last night in Udon Thani with me. Because the hotel has a large banquet area and parking facilities, it's a popular convention site, and the only room I could get has two single beds in it. The night table/control panel between them prevents them from being pushed together. Oc and I try to share one of the single beds, but with me having to get up very early to depart and needing to get some sleep, I give up on this and move into the other bed. I'm up the next morning at 6:30 and while Oc continues to sleep, I dress and pack my stuff. I kiss her goodbye and she says she hopes to see my again if I come back to Udon Thani, I tell her I'd like that. I also tell one of the maids to let the girl in my room continue sleeping, and then go downstairs, check out, and take a tuk tuk to the airport. [Chiang Rai] I've decided to fly to Chiang Mai, a 9 hour bus ride not being something I wish to endure. Orient Thai Airlines flies this route and I get a ticket for the next flight which includes a brief stop in Khon Kaen, apparently a popular business commute from the number of people who get off then. Once in Chiang Mai I opt again for air travel as I continue to Chiang Rai, the choice being between a 4 hour bus ride or half hour 420 baht Thai Airways flight (the cheapest I've ever paid for a commercial airline flight). The only drawback is having to spend a few hours waiting for that flight in Chiang Mai International Airport. It's a smooth flight and I arrive at Chiang Rai International Airport (though I'm unaware of any international flights out of it) and take a taxi into town to the Saenphu Hotel on Banphaprakarn Road, one of the main streets. For only 550 baht a night, you get an even larger room than at the Udorn Hotel, this time with twin beds that are placed together and with all the modern facilities and amenities of a much more expensive hotel, including a complementary shuttle to the airport or bus station. After check in, I scope out the neighborhood some and have dinner at the nearby Phetburi Restaurant. I then have a beer at the Lobo go-go bar, about a block down Banphaprakarn inside a little courtyard area with a couple of other go-go bars. There's not much happening there this early, the farang owner providing some amusement by having his toddler aged daughter dancing on the stage, swinging to the music as she grips one of the fire poles with both hands. I continue exploring downtown and though I spot a few "traditional" massage establishments, find none that seem to offer the kind of massage I'm looking for. I don't bother seeing if maybe more is available than advertised, though, so I note not to rule them out all together. I make my way to Sanambin Road finding what appear to be brothels just a few blocks down from the Chiang Rai Chamber of Commerce. I continue walking though, looking for massage parlors. I come across a sign stacked with a bunch of others, for the "Mona Liza Massage Parlor" but can't find the actual business to go with the sign. I make another pass down Sanambin, this time on a samlor, and with the entre of the driver, am admitted to one of the brothels. I must pass through two locked doors before getting to the girls, a rather high amount of secrecy seems to pervade the place. There's only about four rather sullen girls at the moment to choose from and I pick the one who manages the closest thing to a smile for a 300 baht short time screw. Another rather perfunctory act of intercourse follows and when I go back to the girls, there's only three left including the one I just had. I agree to a 1000 baht all night but find all the choices so unappealing that I decide to pass and instead have my driver take me to another brothel. More of his intercessions are required before the doors are unlocked for me and I'm led to a windowless cavern of rooms. This time the selection is much larger with maybe 20 girls presented before me, more than half of which are smiling and laughing, enticing me to pick them. I pick a beckoning one for a 500 baht short time (the papasan is firm about the price) and go down the hall to her windowless room. Once there she plays the tempting, teasing seductress to the hilt, giving me a hardon before she's removed all her clothes. She's a Mae Sai girl of 18 or 19 with very little hair on her pussy which she enjoys teasing me with. We have a very satisfying screw together, but I unfortunately find out afterwards that none of the girls may be taken out for the night. So I pick another laughing eyed girl for short time, this one even more wild than the last. Her room is farther down the hall and we have to pass a garbage basket to get to it. The stench from there is almost overpowering, a dead animal, or something, apparently having been left there for days to rot. She almost seems a bit crazy in her laughter and desire for me, and I find her more of an effort to get it up for. In addition, her breasts have an obvious sag and wrinkle to them, suggestive of pregancy, though she has no stretch marks elsewhere. She apparently gestures to me that it wasn't carried to term. After her, I've had enough and have my samlor driver take me back to my hotel, paying him 70 baht for his services. I'm soon out again, though, looking to see if I can't find any free lance company to spend the night with. After a few stops, the best I'm able to come up with is a girl from a karaoke bar who insists on 1500 baht. I decide to pass, feeling a need to budget my money a bit at this point, and call it a night. [Mae Sai] I sleep in the next day to catch up on my previous traveling and decide one night at Chiang Rai is enough, at least for now. After lunch, I check out and catch an 18 baht bus for the 90 minute ride to Mae Sai. I sit next to three high school girls on the bus and pass the time helping them with their English exam. From the bus station it's another 5 baht minibus ride to downtown to the Top North Hotel on Phahonyothin, the main drag, where I get an aircon room for 500 baht a night. It's quite a step down from the Saenphu in Chiang Rai, but the room is clean with its own TV, refrigerator and hot shower/toilet. Plus the location is great, just a short walk from the Sai River separating Thailand from Burma with the road ending at the bridge crossing. After check in, I head in that direction, but walking under the bridge and to the right along the road parallel to the river for a few hundred yards until I reach an intersection with a Buddhist shrine at the center. A man motions me into one of the houses and gives me a booklet of photos of girls to pick from. I choose a smiling one and that one is brought before me. A 300 baht short time is agreed to and we go off to another little room for a quick screw. I find this experience quite a bit more casual and easy going after Chiang Rai and look forward to another visit. As soon as I leave this girl, a girl in a different brothel approaches me with interest in both short time and all night. The selection looks inviting, but I tell her I'm hungry and wish to have dinner first. I walk back to Phahonyothin and have a chicken with cashew and rice dish along with a Kloster beer at a restaurant right on the Sai River near the border crossing. The river's only about 50 feet wide at this point and I can see directly into downtown Thakhilek in Burma opposite Mae Sai as I eat my meal. After dinner I go back to my room to get caught up in my neglected diary during which a steady hard rain begins to fall. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ At around midnight I decide to forget the rain and grab my umbrella to return to the brothels for a bed mate. The setup of the hotel discourages late night outings with security curtains locking both the front entrance and the doorway connecting the reception area/restaurant to the rooms across a small bridge. At the brothel, I pick one of the shy, quiet ones in her late teens or so for 800 baht and we walk back in the light drizzle. The double bed in my room turns out to be barely big enough for both of us, and after having her once, manage only a couple of hours of sleep. She leaves the next morning around 9:30 and I go out for a cup of coffee. After lunch I decide to walk across the bridge and check out Burma. The city on the other side is Thakhilek and for US$5 and the relinguishing of your passport, you can make day trips to it as long as you return to Thailand by 5pm. I shop around some but don't really see much not also available in Mae Sai. I then engage the services of a motorbike taxi and we ride off through the mud, a light rain blowing in my face, for a brothel run. The scene this side of the border is quite a bit more hidden as we end up going through many side streets and back allies away from the business district, before finding flesh for sale. We hit three places, each asking more than I want to pay, before we reach one that'll go for 300 baht short time. After picking a girl, an older one who turns out to have had a kid, we walk over to another set of buildings and unlock a dark room a little bigger than the cot like bed within. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ A descent enough screw under the circumstances follows. She's a little more passionate than some others and if I had more time, would consider another visit as she was quite affectionate afterwards. I then do a little shopping for a Burma souvenir but the best I can come up with is a key chain with a faux tiger's fang on the end. After crossing back to Mae Sai (and reclaiming my passport), I have a late lunch at the King Kobra Guest House. A little later in the early evening, I make another trip to the local brothels for a couple more 300 baht screws. Both were in their late teens with the second more quiet than the first. Neither was particularly remarkable. I spend the remainder of the evening, before going to bed, watching coverage of the handover of Hong Kong to Red China on CNN. [Chiang Mai] I check out at noon the next day, catch the 5 baht minibus to Mae Sai bus station, followed by the 20 baht non aircon bus to Chiang Rai Bus Station, a 60 baht tuk tuk to Chiang Rai airport, a 420 baht flight to Chiang Mai airport, and an 80 baht taxi ride to the Montri Hotel at Tha Phae Gate at about 8pm. Rooms are 560 baht a night but all that's available with a double bed is on the noisy Moon Meuang Road side. I have a late dinner and check out the nearby Spotlight go-go bar which I find compares fairly descently with a basic Nana place. I then make my way through the Night Bazaar but don't find anything of interest and cap that with a samurai pork burger and pineapple juice at the area McDonalds. I close the evening back at the Spotlight bar and pick a girl for a 1000 baht all night (300 baht bar fine). ~~~~~~~~~~~~ She's 25, one baby, and is a passionate, enjoyable fuck. We also shower together that night and the next day and I end up having her three times. We're both tired after that and don't wake up until 2pm when the maid telephones us, wanting to change the room. After saying bye bye to her, she wanting to know if I'll be back at Spotlight that evening, I have a late lunch and buy a city map to keep from getting lost. Everywhere I go around the Tha Phae Gate area I run into farangs. I seem to see more farangs (nearly all are the trekking/ backpacker variety) than I've run across in Bangkok. The restaurant adjoining my hotel seems to have nothing but farang customers. Overall, it's a population I prefer to distance myself from when in Thailand. In the evening I call up Supranee to meet me at the Crown Hotel in Bangkok tomorrow at 6pm and then I walk over to the Miami Hotel on Chaiyaphum Road and to the brothels on the soi going behind it. One place on the side opposite the JL Cafe with girls sitting in chairs out front offers short time for 360 baht and I go for it. I pick a laughing Burmese girl of about 19 and we head upstairs to a room with plywood walls for a pleasant screw. I have a bottle of water and sit with the rest of the girls afterwards who all seem quite friendly and hospitable. Had I more time, I'd probably want to try each of them. Then I walk back in the opposite direction along Kam Phaeng Din Road to see if there's any action left in a formerly major brothel area. Sadly, I find all of the shacks are shut down, a guy there confirms that the scene is dead, though I find a couple of cheap karaoke places. A girl in front of one of them near Meaung Din makes the point clear with "sing-a-song-boom-boom-500-baht." A block or so after this one, I enter a small "cafe" which has a selection of half a dozen girls on steps behind glass to pick from. I pick one and we have a quick 500 baht screw in one of the shacks connecting to the back. I then look for any similar remaining action on Chotana but find nothing but boarded up shacks. A tuk tuk takes me back to Spotlight where I see the girl from last night but instead of going for her again, go after the free lance scene. After finding the Bar Beer Center at Tha Phae Gate pretty dead, I tuk tuk to the Bubble disco in the basement of the Porntip Tower Hotel. I become quickly friendly with one girl there who's at a table with some friends. We sit, hold hands and embrace for some time, but when we finally leave (in her car) it's to a beer bar she works at around the corner from Spotlight. Given she doesn't get off until 5am, I decline to stay with her and try the Bar Beer Center again. It's past 3am and it hasn't picked up much more. The biggest excitement there is a katoey who enjoys taking off her top and shouting "I'm ladyman, I'm ladyman, I am what I am." I give up on one girl who wants 1000 baht (too much at this hour) and is only willing to stay until 6am. I quit at this point, too tired to care, but as I go through the exit and walk away from the place, a girl chases after me, wanting to go back to my hotel with me. Not thinking straight in my fatigue, I bring her back without agreeing to any terms. We're both naked on my bed, she a darker skinned one with her pussy shaved, when she brings up wanting an exorbitant amount with an early hour leave. Not caring for the change in her personality, I decide to abort this one, dress, and tell her to leave now. I manage to keep the situation fairly cool, choosing to just quietly sit in a chair until she gets the message, and am rid of her without violence at a cost of only 390 baht. I breath a sign of relief after closing the door behind her and go to bed. [Bangkok] I check out the next afternoon, the Montri Hotel generously providing free taxi service to the airport, and get on the next plane for Bangkok. I take the 70 baht A3 airport bus to the Sukhumvit Crown at Soi 8, and less than 10 minutes after checking in, Supranee calls my room to let me know she's already down in the lobby waiting for me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ I go down to the lobby to meet her and we go back up to my room together. She tells me she has "missed me too much," to the point of even calling my home number and not being sure what to make of my answering machine message, somehow thinking a woman was on the line and therefore living with me. Beyond that, my immediate interest is in getting her naked and having a quick one before we go out. Removing her clothes is always something of an effort with her protests of shyness, but I manage just the same. She particularly doesn't care for the Crown Hotel's wall and ceiling mirrors which afford me additional rear views of her ("you can see too much!"). Otherwise, she's quite accomodating to my penetrating her. After I'm done, we dress (or rather she does as I never did more than unzip my fly) and head over to Foodland for a couple of Khao Phats (chicken fried rice with an egg on top and vegetables). Supranee finishes hers and orders a second as she hasn't eaten all day. I have another lime squash drink which I highly recommend if you like a very strong, citrusy, real lime flavored beverage. This is opposed to Foodland's "orange juice" (which Supranee has) that tastes in fact like Tang. We then go to her apartment to pick up a CD she bought me. After which I have to wait on her at the next door barbershop while she gets a 30 baht blow dry. This is followed by a trip across town (nearly 100 baht taxi fare, Bangkok's traffic is still gridlocked at 9:30pm) to another barbershop run by her ladyboy friends. This is a rather interesting experience as none of them are in drag but are still quite raging queens, Thai style. A couple of them speak very excellent English and say they will help Supranee with her visa forms. When I ask one how he learned to speak such good English (Supranee's needs a lot of work), he starts explaining all the classes he's taken. Another quickly adds that he's also screwed many farang. I have one of them explain to Supranee the various procedures to be followed and what to expect, including obtaining a Thai passport. One will even accompany us to the airport tomorrow (Supranee has never been to one and she wants to see me off) and then take her to the appropriate government agencies. With all that clear, Supranee and I taxi back to my hotel for a final night together. We bathe each other in the tub and I help Supranee shave her pussy while I demonstrate the positive effect this has on my arousal. I then spend at least 15 minutes eating her pussy and bringing her to at least one orgasm, after which she sucks me back to a full erection and we have another screw. We don't fall asleep until past 1am but Supranee wakes me at 6am saying she's hungry. I respond by fucking her and going back to sleep, or trying to. I don't get much more rest and I finally get up at 7:30, have a quick shower, dress, pack, and go down to the lobby with Supranee to check out and meet her ladyboy friend (still not in drag) who's waiting for us. At first I want to take the airport bus to the airport but decide to opt for the convenience of a taxi since three 70 baht bus fares isn't different enough from the 250 baht taxi fare we negotiate (taxis drivers refuse to use their meters for the airport run). The flight to Kunming, China doesn't take off until 10:50am, giving us time for a leasurely breakfast at Thai Airways most expensive airport restaurant, followed by a few goodbyes.
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:57:31 +0000 Subject: Thailand Experience This is a brief description of my trip to Thailand (December1996). 1st Day I arrived on Friday (1am) at Bangkok International Airport. At around 2am was through immigration and negotiated a Taxi at the Airport for 250 Baht to a hotel on Sukhumvit Road. Traffic was ok due to a new express way to Sukhumvit Road. After checking in at the hotel I decided to immediately go to Nana Plaza since I heard it would be open to 4am. When I arrived at Nana Plaza (Sukhumvit Soi 4) at 2.50 am it was pretty empty. Only a few places were open and at 3 am every place closed. I thought this was my chance since girls were leaving the bars and I could negotiate with them without paying a bar-fine. Just when I was looking for an attractive girl coming out from the bars 2 Farangs started a big fight. All girls came to watch them fighting, apparently for a girl but IMHO it was too much alcohol. Anyway this gave me good chance to have a glance at the girls while they were watching the fight. After a few minutes I made my move and sort of tried to take care of two girls which were to close to the fight. I asked there names and then asked the girl I fencied if she would like to spend the night with me (yes that was my second question!). She said let's go out of Nana Plaza and talk outside. I agreed and she wanted 1000Baht for the night. She had a wonderful body and you could see her tummy from the dress she was wearing. Considering that it was late I offered her 750 Baht and she agreed (I'm not a cheap bastard to offer her 500 Baht which she might have accepted as well). Back at the hotel the guy at the reception was smiling at me with a sort of admiration. Back in my room she had a long shower (on her own since she seemed to be very shy and I was to tired to insist on this). Anyway after that she didn't want to give me oral sex. As I don't like insisting I kissed her whole body first and then we had sex for about 20 minutes in various positions. I must say she was not very enthusiastic. Since I did not spend the whole night with a girl for a long time I could not sleep very well (I also did not thrust her very much). The next morning I was ready for a second session of pleasure. This time it took me only 5 minutes to come. I told her it was my first time in Bangkok, but she did not seem to believe me when I told her I arrived that night at 1am. Of course there was no point in telling her about the Internet etc. While she was leaving she asked for the money and I gave her 800 Baht. She looked at the money and asked me if we didn't agree on 1000Baht. Obviously she was to drunk to remember what we have talked about the night before. Discussing money at the end of a nice time was a complete turn off for me so I gave her 100 Baht more and she left (I actually left her on the main street with a tuk tuk). After breakfast the rest of the day was sightseeing (mostly temples). This night I spend the night alone to relax for the next day. 2nd Day I spend the morning again around the Grand Palace taking a boat trip like recommended in the guide book. This night I walked along Sukhumvit Road to check out some massage parlours. Not many who officially to a body massage, so I opted for the most expensive one on the street with the best girls. It was 2500 Baht everything included (wash, fuck and suck as the guy told us). Very expensive but I had to check it out. The place was called Turkish Bath and Massage but I really wanted a body massage. The guy inside assured me I would get what I asked for so I picked a gorgeous looking Thai beauty. First she gave me a massage with her hands while the Jacuzzi was filling with hot water. the room was huge and nice decorated. I also ordered her a soda and myself a beer during the massage. Then she invited me into the jacuzi where she washed my whole body. Then the washing continued with her tits. She rubbed herself on my chest and continued polishing me with her ass. Not bad but I could not get enough of it and at the end the body to body massage bit lasted only 5 minutes. The she rinsed me and herself and we moved to the bed. This time there was no problem with oral sex but it was with condom. Now there was a surprise for me:After the blow job she put on a second condom for safety! Sex with two condoms, that was a completely new experience although I must say I was not very happy about this. Anyway due to the feeling decrease factor of two! condoms, I had her in different position for about 20 minutes and she got really tired from what I could see. As it was 11 pm when we finished I asked her what time she starts work. She said 12 in the afternoon and I was her last customer (she did not say customer of course). I tipped her 200 Baht because she made me a lot of compliments about my style of fucking her. She said she enjoyed it etc (a lot of lies but who cares). She was so happy about the tip she sat on my lap and started kissing me. We had a short chat afterwards and I found out she is from Chang Mai. Ok now it's some time to give more information about the Sukhumvit Road scene. First of all because Thelmae is close we could not find the new place. Tuk Tuk's who said they would bring us to Thelmae brought us to some massage parlours and places where you could have girls for 1000 Baht for 2 hours. I have to describe you the places to give you an idea about what this place is like. First of all Nana Plaza was nothing like I expected. A lot of middle aged man watching girls on stage in the go-go bars. If you call this dancing what these girls are doing than you have seen nothing yet. They are just moving one leg to the front and then to the back. I thought I would be watching a horse or so when seeing them on stage with their numbers. It was so degrading for woman. I like to be with woman I can respect. You may be surprised but I can respect prostitutes but not if they just display themselves like meat. A lot of girls on display for 10 minutes than they change and so and so. A lot of drunk farangs which give them presents kiss them etc. Of course some girls approached me as well telling me how handsome and young I was (yep I'm only 25). I left these places and decided to have a drink outside instead where the girls did not have to display themselves on stage. If you see girls like meat and just want to satisfy your sexual desires then don't look any further than Bangkok. Other places like the take a girl for 2 hours were similar. Girls standing on a stage to display their body. You chose one go upstairs shag her and that's it. You can also take her to your hotel for two hours whispers the guy in my ear. You may say what do you expect, but I expected more from Thailand. A girlfriend type relation which I was not able to find so far. The choosing of a girl in the massage parlour was similar 30 girls sitting behind a glass and watching TV. 3rd Day Not happy about Nana Plaza I decided to check out Patpong which I thought must be even worse considering that most tourists were going there. Patpong was very lively compared to Nana Plaza. Alot of tourists also females because there was a big street market in the middle of the road. On the left and right people are trying to get you into their go-go bars. I checked out one of the King's group. Not much different from Nana Plaza. Girls were not very beautiful. The nice once go very early for short time because there was constantly a traffic of girls coming back. I decided to leave and check out some more places. On the way I decided to watch a pussy show but wanted to avoid one of the known ripp-offs. On the way one guy told me that drinks would be 65 Baht and no cover charge for the show=2E I laughed at him and told him I would know the story. He became serious and said he is not making a joke and said to me I giving you my Thai promise only 65 Baht. So we went upstairs and I asked again before ordering the beer. He confirmed 65 Baht. After a few minutes two girls appeared which sat left and right of me trying to talk to me but there were unbelievably ugly. I couldn't shag them if they would pay me. I got rid of them since they wanted to grab my beer. The show started and after two minutes one of the girls throw herself on my knees begging for 20 Baht (1 dollar). This was disgusting so I decided to leave. When I wanted to pay the bill was suddenly 1000Baht. I became slightly angry realizing that nearly everybody so far had lied to me since I was in Thailand. Lying to me while looking me in the eyes was the thing which annoyed me most so I refused to pay the bill. After some arguments they decided to let me go for paying just 100Baht in addition to the bill. I agreed to be able to leave this place. Then outside I saw the guy who gave me his Thai promise while he was trying to get some tourists in. I told him what happened and I asked him to bring me my 100 baht back. I was not frightened of him because there were so many tourists around me he could not beat me up. He went up but did not come down. At the end one of his friends gave me the 100Baht when they realized I would not go away. Very bad experience and I was very annoyed from people lying to me. This was not the first time. On the way to the Grand Palace the same day a tuk tuk told me the Palace would be closed till 2pm. He wanted to drive me around for 2 hours for 50 Baht. Sounded good but I could see people going inside from a distance. So I asked him are you sure because I can see people going in. He insisted they would be waiting inside. I decided to check it out and of course the Palace was open. In short some people in this country (I don't know how many) are so desperate for money that lying while looking in your eyes is very normal for them. Especially if you are a farang. I spend the night alone in the hotel deciding to travel to Pattaya the next day because Bangkok was really a big disappointment for me. Not much worth seeing and the way to pick girls like picking a car was not that attractive to me. I haven't been to the Netherlands but I would also not sleep with a woman which displays herself on the window. I expect more..... 4th Day-Pattaya I arrived in the afternoon and everything looked very quite in this city with having the reputation for 'the highest number of prostitutes per square meter in the world'. I walked along the beach and from what I could see this city was much more relaxing than Bangkok. At night the city became full of life. This was a city you could not imagine in your dreams. You could perhaps not even see it in films. Most people did not know that such a place exists. It was different, it was weird. When I left the hotel at 8 pm and started walking on the beach this time the bars were full of girls. I decided to walk next to the bars to have a glance at the girls. Some of them were so beautiful I can't words to describe but I did not have dinner and did not feel like starting a conversation already. This was a place I liked. girls waiting in a bar (open air)=2E Some of them were also outside the bar and welcoming customers. One of the girls, a stunner I looked at very carefully and she came out of the bar following me telling me that she fell in love with me. It was so difficult for me to continue walking to have my dinner first, leaving this beauty behind me but I had seen nothing yet. This place was full of contrasts. Transexuals waiting at some bars. Old men walking across the street holding 20 year old Thai boys in their hands=2E Then there were even some farang women who had toy-boys. Thus you had all kind of sexual preference at one place. All of it was available freely. This might be the ultimate freedom for some people for the other it was the ultimate immorality and perversion. I enjoyed it since everything could have what they wanted without interfering with others. Also everything was much more civilized here than in Bangkok. The Germans chose this city as main destination for sex tourism and now I know why. After dinner I decided to have a proper body massage, not a short one in the Jacuzzi but real body to body pussy massage. Thus I went to a big place which had big BODY MASSAGE written at the entrance. Again it was the best place in town prices were 500Baht for the massage and you could negotiate the price with the girl for full service. You could call any girl and have a drink with her first which I enjoyed very much but the pick was again between 30-40 girls behind a glass watching TV. The girl I called was very nice and we first chatted about name, place I came from and how long I would stay (this is standart conversation). Then we came to business and she asked for 1000Baht for full service. I was generous and did not bargain. We took a bath together and then I got a proper body to body massage on a sea bed. She put lot of foam on me and started sliding up and down on me with her pussy. Wooow that was real talent. I was impressed. She was really good and polishing was with her ass. It took 10 minutes but was great. Then we went back in the bath and we rinsed each other. Oral and sex was with condom and not bad. I came while she was on top. I forgot to mention that all Thai girls have very tight pussies thus handle with care. This was a good start in Pattaya. I also had a drink with her afterwards chatting about this and that. She kissed me a few times before preparingt o go back on display again. The rest of the night I checked out several bars had some nice conversations and finally decided on one girl which asked for only 500 Baht short time. I said I would prefer long time and she said since this is your first night I will stay. However on the way to the hotel I changed my mind since I wanted some sleep. I did not continue to insist on long time. In my room the girl started to tell me that her mother would leave the next day and that she had to see her tonight. I hated people lying to me but she did it again. I'm sure if I followed her she would be waiting for the next customer. Anyway she gave a terrific performance. The best in Thailand so far since she wanted to meet me the next morning. I was convinced she really gave her best. We agreed to meet the next day at 11am at the hotel entrance. 5th Day-Pattaya After breakfast at 10.30 I could see her waiting at the lobby of the hotel. We went to my room and I offered her 1000Baht for the whole day . I heard cheaper rates are possible but this was the minimum I could offer to a girl for a whole day. She agreed immediately. We went around and she was my guide around. We were holding hands most of the time and went to some shows etc. till the evening. When we arrived at home for some rest she asked me if I wanted to make love to her. I said ok and this was definitely the sex I was looking for. She (Naan) moving on top of me and smiling. Sometimes she was stopping and I continued. Then I took her from the back and she was really enjoying it (or acting very very good which might be the case). After some 20 minutes of pleasure I came inside her (of course with condom). That was really exhausting and we both slept till 8pm with her head on my chest (not bad these girls). Then we went for dinner at a place her friend worked. After we ordered a young uy appeared who was very angry. He started accusing Naan of running away after agreeing for two days with him. The girl Naan disappeared very embarrassed. I was very cool and asked the guy with a strong German accent about the story. He told me that he agreed on 1000Baht for two days and that she disappeared after the first day with the money. Thus I met the guy who fucked her two days ago. An interesting feeling but at least he was handsome and I actually felt sorry for him. Thus I followed him to talk with Naan. Apparently it turned out that he wanted to take her back to Germany and got her a passport etc. You might ask how this is possible in such a short time. Well let me tell you that some clever Germans have opened a consultancy which does all the paperwork for you so you can take the girl back home. That's what I call open-ended sex tourism. The girl told me she changed her mind and run away because he was forcing her to come with him. Very interesting and she told me later she was afraid he could sell her in Germany because she spoke no German. I think it was the girls fault. I'm sure she first gave him some hope and then after getting the money she ran away. They all should get awards for their talent in lying to people and for their performance to make people believe they love you. It's all acting there is no real love in return for money. If you believe in it you are a fool. All they think of is money. It's actually true that they love you from their point of view. As long as you give them money they will be with you and make you believe you are the only one in their life. However stop giving money and you will realize the truth. Real love and friendship can only be understood if you have no money. It has nothing to do with this topic but I ended a 3 year relationship with a girl which insisted on getting married, which I loved like crazy. However the price she wanted to pay me was more than money for me (my independence), thus sometimes paying for love and sex can be justified. The same night Naan wanted to stay at the hotel. So I left her in my room (all my valuables locked) and left to check out a disco in Pattaya. I had some great time in the Palladium and decided not to make any move towards girls since I had one in my bed. When I came back at 2 am Naan was sleeping and I went sleeping as well. The next morning I woke up when Naan was telling me that she had to go and give the 1000Baht to a friend and that she would be coming back to tell me goodbye. I knew once she got the money she would not be coming back and thus told her so. She insisted, she would be coming back to say goodbye. I said don't lie to me I will give you the money just say bye and leave. But no, she got angry and said she would come back. I gave her the money and while she was closing the door saying I will come back I knew this would be the last time I saw her. This was my last day in Pattaya and I returned to Bangkok for my flight back. I will never understand why she was lying till the last minute while it was not even necessary. To sum it up all four girls I had in Thailand were shy and only one was very enthusiastic during sex. I think if you want to have a good time go to Pattaya and tell the girls you will be there for some time. Then they really try to please you so you they can be with you the next day. Bangkok is polluted, overpriced and most places like Patpong are controlled by the Mafia. Girls can't work on their own whereas in Pattaya girls even work on the beach. There may be exceptions in Bangkok but I described the general scene. As they say you may love or hate Pattaya. I can only say I loved it.
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:26:30 -0500 Subject: Thailand I owe the WSG for helping lay the groundwork for a great vacation and lots of help on numerous business trips so I felt that it was time for my own post. This is an update of information on Thailand. I will not repeat the volumes of detail already available in the WSG on Thailand, this is just to provide an update as of February 21, 1998. This was my first trip to Thailand and because of the WSG I was able to make the most of every minute. Because of the devaluation of the baht ($1 = baht 45) this turned out to be a very cheap vacation. I spent half of the money that I budgeted to spend, and I was not especially trying to save money as I went. Prices are going up. Even so, it is still very cheap for a Farang. Trink's columns in the Bangkok Post were very helpful. I recommend them. The Post is worth reading as well to understand some of the local current events. Both are available on the Net. I was able to book my entire trip on-line, including hotels. This was very helpful and saved money. Trink had several comments about Bargirls and other places demanding US$$ instead of Thai Baht. I did not encounter this except for one upscale hotel in Bangkok. Learn to speak as much Thai as you can before you go. The more you know, the more fun you'll have. I was surprised to be the only one I saw with a phrasebook in the bars. The girls were always happy to see this and it was the focus of much conversation and interest. I decided to head directly for Pattaya because I was in search of some beach time and scuba diving as well as the delights provided by the very beautiful women of Thailand. The cheapest ride I could find from the airport was a limo service that cost me baht 1500. There were more expensive options that I passed on. Later that week while in Bangkok I discovered many bus and minibus options for baht 300 from Bangkok to Pattaya but I was not able to find these options at the airport. Since time was worth something to me I went directly to Pattaya from the airport. I think next time I will stay over in Bangkok first. I was very concerned about the infamous tourist murders in Pattaya. But I decided not to let it keep me away and to trust my instincts. (It must have worked because I'm still here...). When I arrived my hotel would not let me check in until 7:00PM because the room was still occupied so I stashed my bag with the bellman and went walking. After some lunch I headed for Sabailand Massage. Very good. Baht 1900 for everything. Later in the week I tried the massage place across the street. I don't remember the name, but it has Roman columns in front. The selection of girls was just as good, the price was the same but the rooms were not as new or as nice. Don't leave Thailand without trying a body massage. Because of the recession there are a lot of girls coming to Bangkok and Pattaya. My experience was that many of the newer girls are going to the beer bars, probably because it is harder to get hired at the go-go bars. I found that in general the girls at the beer bars spoke less English than the go-go bars, probably because they are newer to the trade. I enjoyed sitting at the beer bars a few times and working on my Thai, but I did not take a girl from there because I never found one that I really liked at a beer bar. I enjoyed several girls from the go-go bars. As others have posted, it is indeed faster to deal with the girls in the go-go bars. IMO the go-go girls were better looking too. I paid baht 1500 for short-time for go-go girls. Then there is the Marine Disco. I think I had more fun in this place than anywhere I have been in many many years. It was packed with incredibly beautiful girls. The girls are a mix of freelancers who are coming to the trade from elsewhere and girls who have day jobs and bar girls who were not bar-fined. It is quite a party. I was in heaven. I paid baht 600 for short-time and baht 1000 for long-time. If you're a scuba diver there are many dive boats operating out of Pattaya and I had fun combining diving with my night-time exploits. I paid baht 1000 for an all-day dive charter that included lunch and drinks. The Bangkok Post is full of editorials about the dive shops charging US$$ but I was only quoted the price listed above. Then I went to Bangkok. The minibuses were all full so I caught a bus that transferred to a minibus on the outskirts of Bangkok for baht 300. It dropped me at my hotel. I thought I would not like Bangkok as much as Pattaya because in general I don't like big cities. I was wrong. Bangkok is certainly the insanity that everyone says it is. Maybe more so now because they are building an elevated train and in addition to the usual wall-to-wall traffic there is construction everywhere. Very crazy. But the women are incredible. In general I would say the girls were more beautiful than Pattaya. That's a tough generalization, but that was my impression. Sow Cowboy - Tried a couple of go-go bars, girls were not that great looking. Took a taxi to Patpong. Patpong - Wow, what a place. The night market is packed with tourists. It's a little weird having these western tourists and families around what you know are some of the hottest go-go bars on the planet. I tried quite a few. Ladyboys - In Pattaya I thought the Ladyboys were easy to spot. Their faces tended to be pretty masculine. In Patpong that was not the case. After being disappointed in the quality of the girls in several bars, I walked into one of the Kings Group bars and thought that I had finally found the spectacular girls of Patpong. They turned out to be mostly Ladyboys! After being fooled and letting one sit with me, I started asking the other girls if they were a lady or not. After finding the girl (yes a real girl) of my dreams we left for baht 1500 short time. This turned out to be perhaps the best sex of my life. I liked here so much I asked her to come to my hotel the next afternoon. I wasn't really sure that she would show up but she did. We spent the entire afternoon in bed. An afternoon to remember. Nana Entertainment Plaza - The girl from Patpong said she would not work at NEP because they don't do health checks on the girls like they do in Patpong. She said at the Kings clubs they have a blood test once a month and a pap test everyday. FYI. NEP turned out to have more beautiful girls than anywhere else I went. It is obviously the choice of Farangs now because the bars were pretty much packed. I had alot of fun going from bar to bar. Some of the bars had 30 - 50 women in them. It was quite a site to see 20 of them packed onto a little stage together. Prices were baht 1500 short time. Thermae - I had to see this place before I left Thailand and it turned out that I didn't make it there until my last night. I had to leave for the airport at 8AM but I decided I could sleep some other time. I went to the Thermae about 1:30AM and it was about 1/2 full. By 3AM it was packed. Most Farangs seemed to cruise through and leave with a girl pretty quickly. I was fascinated in watching the scene so I hung out for a few hours. I left with a girl and paid baht 1000 and she stayed until I left for the airport. It was tough to pry her hands off me and myself away from her when it was time to leave. That was how my trip to Thailand ended.

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